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Why Grymes Hill Homes Need Sonos Installation

Grymes Hill is a hill first and a neighborhood second. Wikipedia describes it as a 374-foot rise of serpentine rock, the second-highest natural point on Staten Island after Todt Hill, with views of Lower New York Bay and the Narrows. The neighborhood around it covers a little under nine-tenths of a square mile. Its east side runs along Van Duzer Street and Richmond Road, the Staten Island Expressway and Clove Road close it off to the south, and Victory Boulevard runs along the west; people still argue about whether Cebra Avenue or Louis Street marks the northern edge. Howard Avenue is the spine. Part of it was once called Serpentine Road, after the green rock it crosses, and in 2016 the New York Times described the area's roads as "curving one way, then the other," with signs warning drivers that the "Hill Blocks View." A resident on Reddit put it more plainly: "It's a genuinely steep hill."

The houses on that slope were built for a view. Sir Edward Cunard put up his Italianate villa, Bellevue, around 1851 on a 38-acre estate he chose for its ocean view; it still stands on the Wagner College campus as Cunard Hall, where the college says he "literally watched his ships come in." The steamship owner John Gans built on the hill because it overlooked the harbor where his ships worked. Louis and Laura Stirn's 1908 mansion at 79 Howard Avenue was renamed Casa Belvedere, "house with a beautiful view," for its outlook over the Verrazzano Bridge and the harbor. Later houses followed the same rule. The Times found "angular contemporaries, with decks offering views of the Lower New York Bay and Verrazano-Narrows Bridge," which "cling to cliffs," next to red-tile-roofed houses in a Spanish mission manner and Craftsman bungalows that "hunker down in the woods."

A house turned toward the view is a particular kind of room to put sound into. The wall you would normally hang a TV on is the one with the window. Glass reflects sound hard, so a living room with a wall of it can feel bright and echoey with a soundbar that would sound full in a plaster-walled den. The sofa faces the harbor, which often means it faces away from the only solid wall. And because the house was set into a slope, its levels rarely stack neatly: the garage and front door may be at the street with the main rooms a half or full storey below, or the house may climb uphill from the road with the deck at the top. Wi-Fi from a router by the front door has to travel down through floors, around retaining walls and out through glass before it reaches the deck that everyone actually uses in summer.

Then there is the land itself. The hillsides and their trees are protected by the city's Special Hillsides Preservation District, in effect since 1987, which the Times described in 2016 as zoning "designed to protect against erosion." Within it, the Zoning Resolution counts any part of a lot with an incline of 25 percent or more as a steep slope, and it lists "tunneling for utilities," excavation, regrading and tree removal among the intrusions an "area of no disturbance" is protected from. A cable trench that would be a half-day job on a flat South Shore lawn is a different question on a Grymes Hill lot that falls away below the deck. So is a speaker post driven into the ground, because the rock under much of the hill is serpentinite, which comes to the surface in places — the Serpentine Art and Nature Commons trails off Van Duzer Street pass right over outcrops of it.

Grymes Hill is also not only big houses. Fred Trump built 423 garden apartments along Howard Avenue and Arlo Road in the late 1940s; the Times describes the Grymes Hill Apartments as "brick two-story buildings clustering along Arlo Road." Grymes Hill Manor Estates, built in 1953 as rental garden apartments, became a 152-unit co-op in 1983, centered on Seth Court. There are condominiums at 830 and 850 Howard Avenue and at 55 Austin Place, rental towers on Victory Boulevard, and two campuses. Wagner College, with its Collegiate Gothic Main Hall, bought the former St. John's University campus a quarter-mile away in May 2026, after St. John's ended classes there in May 2024. A Sonos visit on the hill can mean a four-level contemporary with a cantilevered deck in the morning and a rented brick garden apartment with no drilling allowed in the afternoon. This page explains how we plan for each.

Grymes Hill facts that shape a Sonos plan

• 374 feet: the hill's height, second on the island to Todt Hill (Wikipedia). Elevation is why so many living rooms here face glass, and why sound from an open deck can carry over the treetops below.
• 1987: the year the Special Hillsides Preservation District took effect over the North Shore slopes (Wikipedia; New York Times). Its rules on steep slopes, vegetation and "tunneling for utilities" shape how outdoor cable reaches a lower terrace.
• 25 percent: the incline at which part of a lot counts as a steep slope under the district's definitions (NYC Zoning Resolution, Article XI, Chapter 9).
• 423 and 152: the Grymes Hill Apartments' garden units along Howard Avenue and Arlo Road, and the apartments in the Grymes Hill Manor Estates co-op around Seth Court (Wikipedia) — homes where a free-standing system is often the right answer.
• 8,263 people: the population Wikipedia gives for the neighborhood, across 0.894 square miles. In the wider census tabulation area that includes West New Brighton and Silver Lake, 47.4 percent of occupied homes are rented.
• Two campuses, one owner: St. John's University announced the sale of its 16.5-acre Staten Island campus to Wagner College on May 12, 2026 (St. John's University). Wagner's own campus, much of it former estates, covers about 105 acres by Wikipedia's count.

Taken together, the figures describe a neighborhood of views, levels and protected ground, with a large share of renters in the garden apartments and towers around the edges. None of that makes a good Sonos system harder to get. It makes the order of decisions different: the view and the slope come first, products second.

A Sonos visit on the hill usually includes the TV. Once the window wall is ruled out for the screen, screen and soundbar have to move together, so it is simplest to plan both on one visit. Our Staten Island TV installation crews work from the same price list, and when a renovation has the walls open, structured cabling on Staten Island can drop a network jack on each level at the lowest cost it will ever have.

Sonos Installation Services in Grymes Hill

These nine jobs account for nearly every booking on the hill. Three of them exist mainly because the houses face the water.

Sonos in Rooms Built Around a Harbor View

Most home-theater advice assumes a living room with a solid wall for the screen and a sofa across from it. A Grymes Hill view room turns that around. The sofa faces the window, the window faces the Narrows, and nobody wants a 65-inch black rectangle hung across the reason they bought the house. So before we talk about speakers we settle three questions with you: where the screen goes, where people sit to watch it, and what the room does when the screen is off, which on most summer evenings is most of the time.

Screen and soundbar off the view axis

The usual answers are a side wall at right angles to the window, a corner, or a low credenza in front of the glass with the TV on it, below the sightline. A soundbar works best directly under or in front of the screen, centered on it, wherever the screen ends up, because that is where dialogue should come from. If the screen moves to a side wall, the soundbar moves with it, and the seating either swivels or a second seating group faces the TV. An Arc Ultra is about 46 inches wide and suits a big screen on a long wall; a Beam (Gen 2), about 25½ inches, is easier to fit on a credenza below a window ledge. Sound leaves a soundbar to the sides as well as straight ahead, and a hard sheet of glass close to one end of the bar will exaggerate that side. We measure the distance from each end of the bar to the nearest glass before we choose the position.

Glass is loud, and that is fixable

Large panes reflect sound strongly. A room with glass on one or two sides, a stone or tile floor and a high ceiling tends to make speech harsh and blur fast music, and people turn the volume up to compensate, which makes it worse. The cures are mostly soft: a rug, curtains or shades that can be drawn for a movie, upholstered furniture between the soundbar and the glass. Then Trueplay, run with the room as you usually use it, measures how the room sounds and adjusts the speakers to suit. In a view room we run it twice if the curtains are sometimes open and sometimes shut, and keep the result that suits the way you actually watch.

Rear speakers when the back wall is glass

Surround speakers belong beside or slightly behind the main seats. When the seats back onto a window there is no wall to mount them on, so we use floor stands, a pair of Era speakers on side tables or a console behind the sofa, or ceiling speakers on an Amp if the ceiling is accessible. Sonos lets in-ceiling speakers on an Amp act as the surrounds for a soundbar, so a room with no rear wall can still have rear sound without cables crossing the floor.

Wi-Fi and the window between the room and the deck

Sonos's own interference guide rates ordinary glass as a low obstacle for wireless signals, alongside wood. Coated, energy-efficient glass is a different matter: Ranplan, a wireless-design company, explains that radio signals are reflected when they meet low-E coated glass, which "leads to high signal attenuation." If your big windows have been replaced with energy-efficient glass, the deck is on the far side of it. If a deck speaker or a Move 2 drops out only when it is outside, the window may be the reason. The fix is to give the outdoor zone a wired source — an Amp inside, wired to its speakers — or an access point placed where it can see the deck without looking through coated glass.

Outdoor Sonos for Decks That Hang Above the Trees

The deck is where Grymes Hill households spend their summer evenings, and it is the hardest part of the house to put sound into well. It is high, often a full storey or more above the ground beneath it. It faces open air and the roofs of the houses below. Its underside may be over a slope that is protected land. And the cable from the Amp inside has to leave the house somewhere without letting water in.

Aim the sound at the deck, not the view

Speakers mounted on the house wall or under the deck roof and angled back across the deck put the sound where people sit. Speakers aimed outward toward the water send it over the railing, across the treetops and down to the next street, where there is nothing in the way to stop it. On the hill we mount outdoor speakers high on the house side of the deck, pointed down and inward, and keep them close enough to the seating that they can play at a moderate level. More speakers at lower volume beat two speakers working hard. The NYC Administrative Code bars using a sound reproduction device "in such a manner as to create unreasonable noise," and a deck above the neighbors' bedrooms is exactly where that line is easiest to cross.

The outdoor products that suit a high, exposed deck

Sonos's Outdoor speakers, powered by an Amp, are rated IP66 and designed, in Sonos's words, for "humidity, water, salt spray, heat, UV rays, and freezing temperatures," across roughly −13°F to 149°F. They are the right choice for a deck that is used every summer and left up year-round. A Move 2 is rated IP56 and is fine to carry out for an evening, but its charging base is for indoor use and it should come in when the weather turns. A Roam 2 is IP67 and small enough to take down the steps to a lower terrace. We set a volume limit on any outdoor zone so that a guest reaching for the app cannot push it beyond a level you have agreed.

Getting cable out of the house and across the deck

The cleanest route is almost always along the structure: through the rim joist or the wall behind the deck at a sealed, downward-sloping entry with a drip loop, then along the deck's own joists, beams or ledger to the speaker positions. On a high deck that work happens from a ladder on the deck or, where the underside must be reached, from the ground below on ladder levelers or from staging we price in writing. We do not trench across a steep slope, cut roots or clear planting to bury a cable. Where the lower terrace or a garden below the deck needs music and there is no route along a wall, path or stair, a Roam 2 is the honest answer.

Decks, railings and permits

Sonos work does not change a deck's structure, but a new deck or a rebuilt one does need the Department of Buildings. The DOB says decks need approved plans and permits prepared by a licensed professional, with railings at least 42 inches high. If your deck is about to be rebuilt, ask the builder to leave a conduit or a pull string from the house wall to each future speaker position; it costs very little while the boards are off.

Sonos Installation in Grymes Hill: Questions Answered

These are the questions that come up because of where the houses sit: high, glassy, stepped into the slope and backed by protected woods. Each answer is the one we would give on a walkthrough.

Rooms that face the water

Can a soundbar sit on a low credenza in front of a floor-to-ceiling window, or does it need a solid wall behind it?

It does not need a wall. A Sonos soundbar works on a table or credenza as well as on a bracket; what matters is that it sits centered under or just in front of the screen, at roughly ear height for seated viewers, and that nothing blocks its front grille. Glass a foot or two behind it is fine. Glass right against its back edge can add a slight hardness, so we usually pull the credenza a few inches off the window and keep the bar at the front edge of the top. If you want the screen on the same credenza, we choose a stand or a low mount that keeps the top of the TV below the line you see the harbor along when you are sitting down. Placement on a console is $79 on our list, and the Sonos setup that joins it to the rest of the house is $125.

Our TV stand has glass shelves — is that a good place for the soundbar and the Sub?

For the soundbar, usually yes, if the shelf is thick tempered glass, sits firmly in its frame and the bar is at the front edge. For a Sub, no. A Sub moves a lot of air and vibrates whatever it stands on, and a glass shelf can buzz, rattle in its clips or walk the Sub toward the edge. A Sub belongs on the floor, on a solid surface or a dense pad, beside or near the TV furniture rather than inside it. Sonos's Sub Mini and Sub 4 both connect wirelessly to the soundbar, so the floor position does not need any extra cable apart from power. If the stand rattles even with the Sub on the floor, we adjust the Sub's level in the app with you listening, not by the numbers.

Decks high above the slope

Our deck sits a full storey above the treetops on the downhill side — does music carry farther from up there than from a yard at ground level?

Yes, it tends to. At ground level, fences, hedges, garden walls and the houses themselves block and soak up a good part of the sound before it travels far. From a deck above the treetops on a downhill lot, there may be nothing between the speakers and the windows below. So we treat a high deck as a more sensitive spot than a flat yard: speakers mounted on the house side, angled down at the seating, more of them at lower volume rather than two at full stretch, and a volume limit set in the Sonos app for the outdoor zone. Bass carries farthest of all, so outdoor zones get their bass turned down a notch at handover, and a Sub stays indoors.

Out at the far end of the deck the Sonos app suddenly can't find any speakers, even though the music keeps playing — why?

Because the app finds the system over your home Wi-Fi, and your phone has probably left it. As the signal fades toward the railing, many phones quietly switch to mobile data — Apple calls the iPhone setting Wi-Fi Assist — and from that moment the app is looking for speakers on a network that has none. The speakers themselves are fine and carry on playing. There are two cures. The better one is coverage: an access point placed so the whole deck sits inside the home network, which also helps the outdoor zone. The quick one is to turn off the phone's automatic switch to mobile data, or to step back toward the door before changing the music. We check the deck end with a phone in hand before we leave, so you know where the edge of the network is.

The deck has frameless glass railing panels — will they change how the deck speakers sound?

A little, and mostly for the better if the speakers are placed with them in mind. Glass panels reflect sound back toward the deck instead of letting it spill straight out over the slope, which helps keep the music on your side of the railing. The trade-off is some extra brightness for people sitting close to the glass. We avoid aiming a speaker directly at a panel from close range, because that produces a harsh reflection and sends some of the sound sideways along the railing toward a neighbor's deck. Mounted high on the house wall and angled at the seating, the speakers reach the people first and the glass second. We tune by ear on the deck itself with the outdoor zone playing.

The underside of our deck is two storeys above a steep drop — how do you reach it to mount speakers and run cable safely?

Most of the time we don't need to. Speakers are mounted on the house wall or under the deck's own roof, reached from a ladder standing on the deck boards, and the cable runs along the house-side ledger or the joists closest to the wall. When a run genuinely has to go along the underside over a slope, we look at it on the walkthrough: sometimes it can be reached from the ground on ladder levelers, sometimes it needs staging, and sometimes the honest answer is a different route. Any access beyond our ladders is priced in writing before the visit is booked, and the high-mount line of $75 applies to work above about eight feet. We do not work from a ladder set on loose ground on a steep slope.

Rock, slope and the preservation district

Our back lot falls inside the Special Hillsides Preservation District — can a speaker cable be trenched down the slope to the lower terrace?

Not by us, and probably not easily by anyone. The district's rules in the Zoning Resolution treat slopes of 25 percent or more as steep slopes and list "excavation or regrading, tunneling for utilities, removal of trees, topsoil or any living vegetation" among the intrusions protected areas are kept free of; site alterations also include removing vegetation more than 15 feet from the foundation of an existing building. Whether a particular narrow trench needs an authorization is a question for the Department of City Planning or your architect, not an installer. What we can do is run cable along existing structure — a stair, a path edge, a wall — where one already reaches the terrace, or use a Roam 2 down there, which needs no cable at all.

Our garage is dug into the hill and its back wall is bare rock that sweats in summer — can the Amp and the router live there?

Not against that wall. Sonos rates the Amp to run between 32°F and 104°F with a few inches of clear air around it, but a wall that beads with water on humid days means moisture in the air and on anything stored close to it. We look for a dry spot on the same level instead: a shelf on the house side of the garage, an interior closet, a utility room with conditioned air. If the garage is the only place the internet can enter, we keep the provider's box where it is and run a cable to the router and Amp somewhere drier, which is usually a single cable run of up to 25 feet at $99. Equipment that has already been sitting in a damp corner is checked for corrosion on the connectors before we rely on it.

Green serpentine rock breaks the surface in our garden — is it safe to drill into an outcrop to mount a speaker?

We don't drill or cut exposed rock. Wikipedia's article on the Staten Island Serpentinite lists chrysotile, a form of asbestos, among the accessory minerals in the rock, and drilling or chipping it makes dust. Whether a given outcrop is a hazard is a question for an environmental professional, not for a speaker installer, and a speaker post does not justify finding out. Outdoor speakers on the hill go on the house, on the deck structure or on a post set in soil away from the rock. If a garden corner can only be reached by mounting on stone, a portable Roam 2 or Move 2 brought out for the evening covers it without any drilling.

Apartments, co-ops and condos on the hill

Renting along Arlo Road

The brick garden apartments are compact, two-storey buildings with shared walls, and a lease usually decides what can be fixed to them. For renters we build systems that leave nothing behind: a soundbar on the TV furniture, Era speakers on shelves, and a portable for the small yard or a summer walk. The whole setup moves out in an hour on the day the lease ends. On Reddit, one resident describes the garden-apartment community between Wagner and the former St. John's campus as pet friendly, and another lists it alongside housing for the colleges' students — a useful reminder that cables along the floor are better kept in a paintable cover or behind furniture, away from paws and moving boxes.

The co-op around Seth Court

In Grymes Hill Manor Estates, as in any co-op, the board's alteration rules come first. Free-standing products need no approval. Anything that opens a wall or ceiling, or fixes to an exterior wall, goes through management before we book, and we supply a certificate of insurance free of charge if they ask for one.

Condos facing the harbor

The Howard Avenue condominiums, 55 Austin Place and the Victory Boulevard towers combine concrete, steel-stud partitions and a crowd of nearby networks. We wire one Sonos product to the router wherever a cable can reach it, mount soundbars into concrete with masonry anchors, and keep anything on a balcony free-standing unless the building says otherwise.

What AI Gets Wrong About Sonos Installation in Grymes Hill

We could not open Google's AI Overview from the tools we used to build this page, so we have not quoted it. Instead, these are seven claims that cost guides, product pages and forums publish and that AI summaries tend to repeat, checked against what a hillside house actually asks of a system.

Claim one: "Budget $500 to $1,000 for every room"

Angi's whole-home stereo guide gives figures of $500 to $1,000 per room, $50 to $100 an hour for labor and $100 to $500 for modifications. A per-room number is a reasonable way to think about a house whose rooms are all alike. Grymes Hill houses are not like that.

On the hill the indoor rooms are often the cheap part. A soundbar on a console with the system set up is $204 on our list. What moves the total is the deck, the levels between the router and the furthest room, and whether a route exists for an outdoor cable that does not cross protected ground.

So we price by zone and by route rather than by room. Outdoor and ceiling zones fall inside the $800 to $2,500 per zone figure we publish for whole-home audio, and the walkthrough pins your number down before anything is bought.

Claim two: "Sonos works anywhere your Wi-Fi reaches"

This one is half true. Sonos needs a network it can depend on, and Sonos itself says it does not support Wi-Fi extenders. A phone that shows two bars on the deck is not the same as a speaker that will stream there all evening.

In a house stepped into a slope, the router is often at one end of a vertical path through slabs and a retaining wall, and Sonos rates concrete as a high-interference material. One level can be perfect while the next drops out every few songs.

The fix is usually one cable per level rather than a stronger router: a wired Sonos product or access point on the level that struggles, so the system no longer depends on a wireless hop through the hill.

Claim three: "Glass doesn't block wireless signals"

Sonos's own interference table does rate glass as low, alongside wood. For ordinary window glass that is fair, and many deck speakers work perfectly through an open slider.

Energy-efficient glass is different. Ranplan explains that radio signals are reflected by low-E coatings, which "leads to high signal attenuation." On a hillside house the biggest windows are usually the ones between the living room and the deck.

When an outdoor zone fails only with the doors shut, we stop looking at the speakers and look at the glass, then wire the outdoor zone or move the access point so it no longer has to see through the coating.

Claim four: "Just bury the speaker wire across the yard"

Guides for flat suburban lots make outdoor wiring sound like a weekend job with a spade. On a Grymes Hill lot, the ground below the deck may be a steep slope inside the Special Hillsides Preservation District.

The Zoning Resolution lists "tunneling for utilities," excavation, regrading and vegetation removal among the intrusions its protected areas are kept free of. Serpentine rock near the surface adds a second reason not to dig or drill casually.

We route outdoor cable along structure that is already there, and where the music has to go somewhere no structure reaches, we recommend a battery speaker rather than a trench.

Claim five: "Point outdoor speakers toward where you want the sound to go"

It sounds obvious, and on a deck facing the harbor it usually means pointing them at the view. That sends the music over the railing and the treetops toward houses with nothing in the way.

The sound you want goes to the people on the deck, who are much closer than the view. Mounted on the house side and angled down at the seating, speakers reach the listeners first and lose energy before the railing.

Add a volume limit for the outdoor zone and a little less bass, and the deck sounds full without carrying down the hill. The city's noise code is written around "unreasonable noise," and aim is the cheapest way to stay on the right side of it.

Claim six: "Ceiling speakers are simple in a modern house with drywall"

Drywall is easier to cut than old plaster, which is why the claim spreads. But the hill's contemporaries often have sloped or cathedral ceilings, insulation packed against the roof deck, recessed lights in a tight grid and, under a flat roof, no attic at all.

Sonos's own guide says its in-ceiling and in-wall speakers "require special installation," and in a contemporary the special part is finding a joist bay that runs where the speakers should go and a path back to the Amp.

We survey first. Where a ceiling can't take speakers in the right place, a pair of Era speakers on stands or a wall bracket will sound better than ceiling speakers in the wrong place.

Claim seven: "Trueplay tuning fixes any room"

Trueplay is a good tool. It listens to the room and adjusts the speakers' sound to suit it, and it is worth running in every room that supports it, with the speakers in their final positions.

What it can't do is take the glass out of a view room. Strong reflections from a window wall and a stone floor still blur speech; Trueplay softens the result, it does not remove the cause.

So in the brightest rooms we combine it with placement, a rug, curtains for movie nights and, where it helps, a second Trueplay pass with the curtains drawn, and we leave the result that matches how you really use the room.

Sonos Installation Near Grymes Hill's Landmarks

Our crews cover the whole hill, from the foot of Van Duzer Street across to Victory Boulevard and from the expressway north to Louis Street. When people describe where they live, they usually start from one of these six places.

The hill has been called Signal Hill, after a British signal station, and Castleton Heights in 1830s deeds, before taking the name of Suzette Grymes, whose first husband had been Louisiana's first governor and who settled here in 1836 as the wife of the New Orleans lawyer John Randolph Grymes. Major George Howard bought 42 acres between Eddy and Louis Streets in the early 1830s and built many of the first houses; Howard Avenue still carries his name (Wikipedia; Casa Belvedere).

We also install around the hill: Silver Lake, Sunnyside, Emerson Hill, Ward Hill, Stapleton Heights, Stapleton, Concord, St. George, West Brighton, Randall Manor and Castleton Corners, all on the same Staten Island price list.

Sonos Installation Packages & Pricing

Most first visits on the hill fit one of three bundles. The price on each card is the sum of lines from the tables above, written out so the math is visible; surcharges for the wall or for access appear only where your room calls for them.

Field Notes: Reading a Grymes Hill House Before Talking Products

What follows is the routine our installers use on a first visit to the hill, written as practice rather than as any customer's story.

We start at the curb and look at the house from the street, because on a slope the street tells you where the levels are: a garage door at the sidewalk with the roof barely above it means the living space is below, and a long flight of steps up means the deck is at the top. Inside, we find the router before anything else and count the changes of level between it and the room the family uses most. Then we go to the view room and sit where the household sits, because that is the only way to see where a screen would block the harbor and where sun lands in the afternoon. We open the slider and step onto the deck, look over the railing at what is below — lawn, rock, woods or the next roof — and listen to how quiet the hill is. We ask whether the windows have been replaced and when. We look for a dry place for the Amp. Only after all that do we talk about products, and by then the plan usually starts with the deck and the network, not with another speaker.

Sonos Installation Across Staten Island and New York

Grymes Hill belongs to our Sonos installation on Staten Island page, and that page reports to the New York City Sonos hub. Below, every page in the Sonos series is grouped by neighborhood, city borough, Long Island and the Hudson Valley.

Beyond Sonos, our crews handle security cameras, intercoms, access control and data networks across the island. Start at the Abstract Enterprises Security Systems home page, or learn who we are, before booking.

Grymes Hill Sonos Down Tonight? We Can Be Up the Hill Soon

One level going silent usually traces back to something that changed nearby: a provider's new router, a storm outage, a replaced window. Phone (347) 934-8335 for the next open two-hour slot; most of these calls are sorted within an hour or two of the technician arriving.